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the 2.0 galaxy can return excellent fuel economy with sufficient attention to detail

 

1.avoid roof boxes at all cost,they add huge wind resistance.

2.avoid roof bars and if possible remove or dont fit roof bars

3.remove mud flaps

4.avoid low profile tyres

5.if you never carry more than 4 passengers then remove the extra seats accordingly

6.avoid going above 50 mph,driving at 60 will use one third more fuel over the same distance as at 45

7.avoid the lead foot syndrome-you`re not in a ferrari!

8.anticipate road conditions,needless braking is wasted fuel

9.check tyre pressures weekly

10.lower viscosity oil reduces engine internal friction,especially in winter

11.drive with the windows closed at all times,use the fan to cool the car

12.avoid the air conditioning where possibe

 

the 2 litre can crack 44mpg with care on a motorway

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Or do you mean 44mph?

 

Alternatively, a TDI can crack 44mpg without any special attention whatsoever, and you can still reach your destination in a reasonable time.

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Seriously though, the advice given is applicable to all cars. If anyone wants to save fuel, follow the advice.

 

For a Galaxy diesel you can crack 60 mpg if driving as advised.

 

As for "reasonable time", I doubt you will save more than a few minutes on a lot of journeys by flooring it. Remember - there are statutory speed limits too!

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Good points.

Can I add something to it.

If you do have air con it actually use less fuel with the a/c on low than if your windows are open which creates a huge amount of drag.This has been proven and

is not a product of my otherwise empty head.

 

 

What Oil is reccommended for 1997 2.0ltr DOHC petrol.

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Sorry to break this to you folks, but I have a recently converted LPG 2.8 v6 Auto Galaxy. Ignoring all the advice given above, I can crack the petrol equivalent of 44 mpg around the City, and hit nearly 60 mpg on a run with ease!

 

I have no Turbo Lag or Diesel Knock, and unlike the 2.0, I can pull the skin off a rice pudding!

 

If you want some good advice on economy, get yourself a 2.8, LPG it and you'll never look back! I should have done it years ago! This thing's more efficient than my wife's Scenic Diesel, with over twice the BHP! It doesn't take long at these fuel figures to get your conversion money back - believe me. It's a real joy filling it up for

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All good points from johnswlondon but IAM advice is that one should make the best progress, within the speed limits, to suit road conditions. Driving at 45mph on a dry clear single carriageway is likely to cause tail-gating and frustration to following vehicles so if you want to apply this tip then make sure your not holding up the traffic that isn't co concerned with fuel economy.
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I have never got 60mpg, but on a journey from Dartford to Horley (about 36 miles) with the cruise set to 50 on the motorway, the trip computer recond on 55mpg (door to door)
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QUOTE(Paul B @ Aug 14 2007, 17:31:06) 113518[/snapback]
Sorry to break this to you folks, but I have a recently converted LPG 2.8 v6 Auto Galaxy. Ignoring all the advice given above, I can crack the petrol equivalent of 44 mpg around the City, and hit nearly 60 mpg on a run with ease!

 

I have no Turbo Lag or Diesel Knock, and unlike the 2.0, I can pull the skin off a rice pudding!

 

If you want some good advice on economy, get yourself a 2.8, LPG it and you'll never look back! I should have done it years ago! This thing's more efficient than my wife's Scenic Diesel, with over twice the BHP! It doesn't take long at these fuel figures to get your conversion money back - believe me. It's a real joy filling it up for

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couple of weeks ago in auto express they done an article about fuel consumption iirc it was along the lines of not keeping the revs below a certain rpm and they(the mag)were amazed on how much better there mpg was,you might be able to view it on line,made interesting reading.
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Are you speaking from experience? I never believed how economical this could be until I experienced it for myself. I spent months researching it before taking the plunge! Now after running a V6 Galaxy for the last 6 years (Mark1 Ghia X followed by Mark2 Ghia Multimedia), I wished I had done it long ago! If I had a bigger tank fitted, coupled with the range from the Petrol tank, a range of 1000 miles would be easily achievable! All without "Diesel" performance too!

 

I'm not anti-Diesel, I have also ran 2 Diesels for the last 10 years! But I'm dead impressed with this, and before long the Diesels might be biting the dust! This is without doubt a better solution than a Diesel Galaxy, in my opinon. The 2 cannot be compared. Whilst I readily accept in Petrol form these can be expensive to run, compared with the 2.3 the 2.8 is still more economically viable, Power to weight Ratio etc!!. I had a mate who had a 2.3 from brand new, when I had my new Mark 1, and he did 70k in 2 years and could never get anymore than 23 mpg. I was doing that around the city, without taking any economical measures! Now with LPG I don't have to drive along at 50 mph anywhere. I simply drive normally, and fill it up when it's empty. Plus, it's more enviromentally friendly too and the government acknowledges that by giving me a Road Tax discount! Alright, so it's only

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QUOTE(Paul B @ Aug 14 2007, 19:43:20) 113531[/snapback]
Are you speaking from experience? I never believed how economical this could be until I experienced it for myself. I spent months researching it before taking the plunge! Now after running a V6 Galaxy for the last 6 years (Mark1 Ghia X followed by Mark2 Ghia Multimedia), I wished I had done it long ago! If I had a bigger tank fitted, coupled with the range from the Petrol tank, a range of 1000 miles would be easily achievable! All without "Diesel" performance too!

 

I'm not anti-Diesel, I have also ran 2 Diesels for the last 10 years! But I'm dead impressed with this, and before long the Diesels might be biting the dust! This is without doubt a better solution than a Diesel Galaxy, in my opinon. The 2 cannot be compared. Whilst I readily accept in Petrol form these can be expensive to run, compared with the 2.3 the 2.8 is still more economically viable, Power to weight Ratio etc!!. I had a mate who had a 2.3 from brand new, when I had my new Mark 1, and he did 70k in 2 years and could never get anymore than 23 mpg. I was doing that around the city, without taking any economical measures! Now with LPG I don't have to drive along at 50 mph anywhere. I simply drive normally, and fill it up when it's empty. Plus, it's more enviromentally friendly too and the government acknowledges that by giving me a Road Tax discount! Alright, so it's only

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quote I had a mate who had a 2.3 from brand new, when I had my new Mark 1, and he did 70k in 2 years and could never get anymore than 23 mpg.

 

Don't know about these figures but i think maybe you mate had a problem with his and should have taken it back to fords no more than 23mpg ?

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Hi, yes I can see that a Diesel LPG would sure be economical without a doubt. There is interesting info on Go LPG's website which delves into Diesel Conversion, as there is on numerous other sites. They suggest that Diesel Consumption is reduced by 25% and replaced by Gas in part relating to an 18% saving approximately.

 

I'm not convinced you could reach the equivalent of 70mpg, as you would be using 75% Diesel at full price and only 25% max LPG at 2.2 times cheaper, plus you would get slightly less MPG from the LPG part, unless this is taken into account the findings on their site? I calculate you would be about 14% better off? Which if you add this on to the 45 MPG, this comes to 51.3 mpg? Working out on a basis of 94.9 per litre for Diesel and 42.9 for LPG, you would be paying 86% of the cost of a normal Diesel Gallon price.

 

Can you tell me where I have gone wrong? How do you arrive at 70MPG? I could be convinced to going Diesel LPG!!

 

When I had the kit fitted, they fitted an ECU to control the system. I would presume the original ECU was remapped to meet the Calorific Value of the LPG, and I'm not sure whether this is done by the extra ECU fitted, or whether this simply intercepts the Petrol Injectors and operates the LPG system once the system is activated? As the car can run on both Petrol and LPG, by Manual selection or Automatically, thinking about it, something must tell the original ECU that the car is running on GAS or PETROL - therefore changing the Calorific Value each time?? I will have to investigate this further. Although, on the other hand, surely if the Calorific Value is lower, it would simlpy result in more fuel being used, which would equate to less MPG on LPG which is the case, therefore negating the requirement of remapping the ECU?? Though on these new systems the loss in MPG is minimal, and the loss in any performance is certainly not noticeable. It runs better on Gas! Or maybe that's psychological!

 

Thanks.

 

Paul

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quote I had a mate who had a 2.3 from brand new, when I had my new Mark 1, and he did 70k in 2 years and could never get anymore than 23 mpg.

 

Don't know about these figures but i think maybe you mate had a problem with his and should have taken it back to fords no more than 23mpg ?

 

 

Highly possible, but it's absolutely true! Maybe he hadn't taken any of the advice above and had a lead foot! Also possible. But then I'm not particularly impressed with 44 mpg on a motorway at 50mph by a 2.0 petrol with a feather on the throttle, though with an LPG Conversion a Petrol equivalent of a possible 100 MPG, that would be impressive! That's how to Double the Fuel Economy of your Galaxy! I've got 2 extra cylinders to feed, an Automatic Gearbox and I have everything running with the Climate set to 18C all year round and I can get this in the city, where it's stop start!

 

All I know for sure, is how much I am saving on LPG now, and it's highly recommended! I was sceptical like everybody, and wanted assurance before taking the leap, but at some point you just have to go for it! Wish I'd done it years ago.

 

Put it this way, my next car will not DIESEL nor PETROL solely!! Dual Fuel Petrol/LPG all the way!

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though with an LPG Conversion a Petrol equivalent of a possible 100 MPG,????

I already run a state of the art system on a LPG converted 2.3 and get what i believe is fanatastic economy better than that of a diesel in my opinion and from what my wallet is telling me but i do think you are being a little optomistic in your figures .

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though with an LPG Conversion a Petrol equivalent of a possible 100 MPG,????

I already run a state of the art system on a LPG converted 2.3 and get what i believe is fanatastic economy better than that of a diesel in my opinion and from what my wallet is telling me but i do think you are being a little optomistic in your figures .

 

 

Well, if it's still possible to get 44mpg from the 2.0, observing the advice given, then if it were LPG Converted, with LPG 2.2 times cheaper it would equate to 96.8 MPG. However, as you will already be aware, you get slightly less MPG whilst running on Gas, but it would be easy to reach nearly 90MPG Equivalent, and certainly not totally impossible to reach nearer the 100 mark. Providing the car was in optimum shape - including a Clean Air Filter!! Which most people and most Garages never change!

 

Like you though, I have nothing to prove. The difference is in my wallet everytime I drive. I have no reason to quote inflated figures, because I'm laughing all the way to the bank! If you speak to anybody with an LPG Conversion, they all say the same. It sure is worthwhile in the long run, and that's the real way to Double your Fuel Economy! Pay less than half the price for the fuel in the first place!

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Like you i believe LPG at its current price difference has to be a winner , even over diesel although you will never win that argument on here lol. I travelled from liverpool down to south wales only last night leaving with a full tank driving at normal speeds not trying to save fuel etc and stopped to top up at junction 30/M4 cardiff gate all i could manage to get in the tank was Edited by mikej
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What capacity are the Lpg tanks that are available and where are they fitted on the vehicle please ? makes interesting reading

 

this topic , herad about diesel Lpg before from someone but thought he was having me at it :lol:

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I'm selling my LPG Sharan at the moment (look on eBay).

 

I worked out the fuel/cost equivalent to be about 44mpg. My Audi A6 Avant returns 45mpg, so my running costs are about the same.

 

I could follow all the ideas about saving fuel, but life's too short to look at the guage all the time :lol:

 

Mo4 - my tank is in the spare wheel well. The spare is strapped down in place of one of the rear seats - not often I need all 7 seats, hence the Audi.

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My own gas tank is 77 litres with a maximum fill of 58 litres due to saftey regs ( expansion ) it is fitted in place of the spare wheel which now is in the boot but you can specify size,type and location of tank to suit your needs .The system fitted at the moment is latest romano sequential system these systems have their own ECU to control them and will run on full auto only switching to petrol when your gas has run out . ( led display gauge is fitted so you know what your tank has left in it ) To run on petrol you simply press the button at any time and you can switch back and forth should you wish , compared with the older systems the loss of mpg when running on gas compared with petrol is next to nothing my current average is approx 27/28mpg combined this gives a petrol equivalent of 56 - 60 mpg . With regards to gassing a diesel gal i have been informed by the person who carried out my installation that diesels with not only benefit from improved mpg but also a decent power increase hence a good option but i personally have never actually driven a converted derv as yet .I do not watch the fuel gauge or drive around trying to get max mpg but i do do a lot of miles my galaxy runs much smoother than on petrol and my own conversion will have paid for itself in about 10 months hopefully the price of gas will continue to be less than half that of petrol and i will then see the real benefits ! i will most definately look at this option again when i come to change cars.Not trying to start an argument or mine does more than yours simply shareing my own experience lol...
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